Kartra vs Thrive Architect: The Best Page Builder Showdown

what's going on everybody John here from

unbeatabletech.com welcome back to the

channel in today's video we're gonna

begin a series of videos where we pit

cartridge ence thrive to juggernauts in

the digital marketing space cart row

being the all-in-one business platform

and thrive from thrive themes being kind

of the all-in-one marketing solution for

WordPress users and in today's video

we're gonna start it off with the most

important one arguably which is the page

builder and the page building experience

between the two

are you considering between WordPress

and Karcher between thrive themes and

Karcher today's video is just for you

let's go ahead and dive right in ok so

just first off unlike a lot of the

videos you might find on youtube about

Karcher or about thrive themes I'm an

actual user of both platforms I am

currently working with a small business

she's actually my mom it's very sweet I

know but she's been in the dinosaur age

for a long time and I'm bringing her

into the digital marketing space by

getting her entire business online with

Cara I also run my own blog my own

website and a membership and course

community at in kamesh com go ahead and

check it out and join up if you want to

so I have good experience with both of

these platforms so in today's video

we're gonna do a deep dive about the

page builder experience between both of

them and we're going to cover the good

in the bad and the ugly of each one and

what we're gonna do specifically is

we're gonna review the pre-built

templates for the pages because

obviously if we are short on time we

want to be able to hop in get a great

template immediately and get to work

we're also going to cover the learning

curve because if you're just signing up

for one of these if it's too difficult

in the first couple days you're not

going to continue with the platform well

then cover the speed to build and that's

with all the different elements in there

and just how the general workflow is

with each of these platforms I'm going

to do a special section on images and

icons because that's a very visual part

of the entire experience obviously and

it's very crucial for your conversions

and there's some interesting things

between these two we'll also cover a

section that I guarantee no other

youtuber is going to cover because it's

kind of in the weeds but it's really

important to know as you get more

advanced in it and that's all about

content boxes probably we know what that

is but you'll find out we'll also talk

about bugs and yes both of these tools

have bugs not a ton but enough you'll

really want to pay attention if you're

considering signing up and finally with

all the dogfights I do I want

talk about who each platform is for I

firmly believe that every tool out there

is good for the right person and I'll

cover who I think those people are in

this video okay let's go ahead and cover

the pre-built templates and the way

we'll do this is will first cover the

cart recite of things it will come back

around for the Thrive side of things so

let's go ahead and get right into the

cartridge builder templates alright so

here we are in our car truck account and

on the pages section you have our list

here you can see I'm kind of building

out a nice little small business website

here for a kennel for my my lovely mom

there she is and she says sweet anyhoo

so what we're going to do sorry waxing a

family love here is we're gonna build a

new page in this account and you have

this amazing list of options for your

templates and here you've got squeeze

pages you've got sales pages I don't

know the exact quantity but as you're

going through just for thank you pages

they've got to a whole bunch I'm not

gonna count them

they've been recently adding some new

things this actually I found out

recently so you come down here they've

also added in legal pages so let's go

and take a look at the legal page so it

looks like it's terms and conditions

they don't actually put the text in

there for you as lorem ipsum text but

there are free generators for your pages

there they've also this is an empty

category so they're looking at blog

posts ok card show what you're working

on there Carter has openly said they're

not trying to compete with WordPress and

become a blogging platform but in the

facebook community that is one of the

most commonly requested section is can I

write a blog post on cart right if all

you want to do is write 5 10 maybe 20

blog posts on your website

maybe going to WordPress and cartridge

not the solution you could honestly do

it here more to be seen on that one what

I do love about this is they have

templates for pretty much anything you'd

imagine even product reviews so if you

want to have a kind of special page you

drive traffic to you can go into the

best DSLR cameras and all sorts of great

stuff they're really really well fleshed

out list of pages also upsell pages and

these are specially designed for once

they've made it purchased you can go

ahead and try to get more revenue out of

your customer and I'm bringing these

specific sections up because they're

kind of missing in cart raina thrive

themes as

line up there so let's go ahead and flip

on over to thrive themes and show you

what they have to offer as well okay so

now we're over in thrive architect their

visual builder and we've pulled up a new

blog page a new web page and we've gone

into the template library and what's

interesting about the thrive architect

is they've done things a little bit

differently

where instead of listing them by the

category of purpose being like you know

the thank-you page the upsell pays a

membership registration page they link

it kind of by general feels so for

example fit brand is like an entire set

of websites our entire funnel that are

all kind of working well together this

is very smart because what you can run

into is you can pick the greatest

thank-you page in the world but then you

might be stuck for 20 minutes trying to

find the squeeze page or the landing

page that looks similar in branding so

with Carter

you know if I go and I find a nice

squeeze page here now the burdens on me

to figure out what the best thank-you

page is to match that obviously this one

and this one they don't work well too

too well together no this is red and

yellow and this thank-you page has no

red on anywhere so you're gonna do a

little bit more hunting and pecking and

finding to get everything that looks

exactly right bouncing back over here to

thrive architect one thing I will say is

that you don't necessarily know which

one is going to be the right one for you

you kind of do look through a lot of

these I can tell that thrive has spent

more time on certain styles and less on

others for example you they've got their

atomic here which this is not bad like

this is a very good landing page you've

got very simple headline and often page

let's just go ahead and load one of

these up just so you can see it so we'll

do the webinar streaming page for

example so this is a nice-looking

landing page it's very basic but it

looks quite good if we go back into here

let me show you one they've clearly

spent a lot of time on here we've got

the copy 2.0 this is one of their more

recent ones which is kind of nice and

you'll load this guy up as well you can

take a look and one thing I do like

about thrive and Karcher both together

is that they actually give you example

sales copy in the pages themselves and

thrive I think does a slightly better

job of this honestly because this entire

section is telling you this subheading

has one job make your visitor want to

keep reading

so as you're going through this is a

very well built out they've got textures

in the background just good job I

thought this is a wonderful wonderful

sales page and we'll get more into the

details of the pages in a second last

thing I want to say on the Thrive

architect landing page templates is you

also have this tag up here so not only

are they organized by kind of branding

you know this is all this yellow

mustardy color but you can also filter

down by tags and say show me only the

one step or two steps so these are

different opt-in styles and now you can

see you have only the lead magnet pages

for each one of these brands so if you

found the brand you like but now you

need to go ahead and find the right type

of form then you can go knock this out

this way we can also search for them and

say we want to have a home page so type

in home you've got home pages this is

something that thrive does and cartridge

does not because Karcher is not really

meant to be a full-blown content

management system you've got nice home

pages here in thrive architect so one

that I like a little bit I actually

watched Shane malach who's the guy the

the guy behind thrive themes I saw him

build this page live on his channel it

did a great job there and this is kind

of a template for a hero section for a

personal branding website and kind of

shows you everything how it works there

so if we're just considering the

full-blown page template libraries I

have to give the edge to thrive themes

because they don't only give you the

ability to search for your template by

the purpose you know squeeze page Thank

You page excetera they also group them

for you in categories kind of around a

brand and that's very very smart but

there's one other trick that Carter has

up its sleeve and let me show you that

right now

so once we've loaded this template let's

say we want to add another section if we

go into thrive we're gonna have to add

individual little elements and build out

our sections by ourselves not too much

to ask for you they do have sections

like calls to action which are very kind

of well made you know so this one little

section here

is kind of like a full-blown section

it's so a headlines and texts and nice

little arrows and a button but car trip

ups it a little bit so let's show you

that in a second okay so let's say we

want to sell this product here we're

gonna use this template so we'll select

it and launch the Builder here

okay so I've loaded up the page here in

cartridge and again another beautiful

looking page like each one of these

looks extremely professional but now

we're Carter has a little trick of a

sleeve is you don't have to only add the

components like with thrive you have to

add the button in and add the text in

and all the different things with cart

row they have this entire other section

I'm going to call this a template

library because it's section templates

so I can actually add let's say we want

to find some more content we want to

have a section here that really maybe

shows an image of the tool with a

computer and another little headline you

can do that you just scroll through here

and all these are pre-built sections

more so than just an individual

component of the page and let's say we

let's find one that I want to use this

guy here let's say you want to add this

in it's as easy as drag and drop and

because they're all kind of built in a

similar style most of these will look

good just by dragging it right in and

then from there all you have to do is

edit this and you're good to go you have

a new section they're built in with a

nice little image in and you're good

there so for the first category of

comparison the template library I was

going to say that there I've had it a

little bit they were up on in the

beginning of the race by having a better

organization other templates but then I

have to give it to cart row because I

find myself when I'm building pages in

thrive you know I'll get a good head

start by getting a nice template in but

then it's not exactly what I need all

the time so I'm building out other

sections as I go and that process is

just a lot easier in Karcher because you

can drag the section and you can kind of

think about what you want and that they

haven't nicely organized by you know

feature set let me show you that real

quick they have it nicely organized by

navigation menus you can just find them

in navigation menu that works for you

you could find a hero section that shows

I mean a lot of these you can just say

oh yeah that's what I want drag that guy

in make a small tweak change the girl on

the front and boom you're good to go so

do like how thrive or how karcher sorry

I'm working through a cold here nobody

can tell how Carter organizes their

section library there so Carter wins the

first category all right so the next

category is the learning curve and

learning curve is crucial because with

all these software as-a-service you know

whether it's a wordpress plugin or this

entire platform here with Carter if you

don't feel good using it if it's kind of

frustrating you as you're going through

the process

you're not gonna re-up and it's not good

for the company it's not good for you

because you're wasting your time trying

something and not following through with

it so having a good easy learning curve

is crucial in my opinion so let's go

ahead and compare these two together

right now so continuing here with Carter

on our page we've already built together

they have a pretty good learning curve I

want to say it's a little bit easier

than thrive even though it's a bit more

limited so when you first open up the

page builder for the first time they

walk you through a pretty good tutorial

that shows you what every section does

shows you how to adjust responsiveness

to tablet and mobile it shows you kind

of difference between component mode and

column mode where essentially if I hover

over something and I'm in component mode

it's going to edit the component right

but if I wanted to instead maybe change

the width of these two columns because

this is a two column layout I would go

over to column mode and now if I hover

over look at that I can see the purple

pink purple columns and the blue row I

guess I would call that so now if I

wanted to edit style I can see the

padding here I can align it from top to

bottom and I can adjust even background

images within that column there they

also have a nice little guide here where

if you don't know exactly how they got

this layout to look like this for

example you know there's a lot going on

here you've got several different

columns several different rows if you

want to see how they actually did that

just click the show columns and you can

see okay this is very logical this makes

sense and then you kind of know how you

want to edit it you also get a good

indicator on how this is going to look

on each device because you can see how

the this content is stacked on top of

each other so for example when I go from

desktop to tablet it shows you the order

that is going to stack it because that's

how it was ordered in the desktop

version hope that makes sense I think

the benefit with Carter is kind of being

that 80/20 principle where they give you

80% of the stuff get you

while only giving you probably 20% of

the complexity they need to give to you

so a good example of that is by adding

all these sections you don't need to be

an expert at organizing your column

width you know that can be one of those

frustrating things that I'll show you

and rive that can really kind of make

you want to throw something against the

wall but here for example like this is a

pretty complex section here there's our

features you can see they've got a

certain width here for our features a

certain width here different padding on

each element there's a lot going on here

but because Karcher provides that drag

and drop section capabilities it takes a

lot of that frustration away it still

gives you the ability let's say I want

to have some additional padding on the

top here of both of these guys I can go

into the Edit style here and I can say

on margin I want to maybe add 50 pixels

of margin apply it and you can see it

Boop it moved everything down there now

let's say I want to get crazy and now I

want this section to go further down I

can actually edit the column make sure

you use the right terms edit the column

here and add top padding there let's do

100 pixels there and this should shoot

it down further so you can see things

aren't logical things make sense in how

the editing works here but they've kind

of masked some of the complexity by

doing most of it for you and giving you

decent enough designs that you don't

need to kind of get to be an expert in

it also with learning curve I think that

by this is a pretty logical way of

showing things where thrive you'll see

their menu is a little bit overwhelming

with all the things they have going on

here cartridge does a good job of kind

of nesting things together so if I want

to find some components let's say I want

to find a good headline and clicking the

headlines and then you've got a another

list of templates even within the

components section so if I want to find

a headline I don't need to go in go to a

full-blown section and then you know get

all this I can just go and find the

right headline for myself so let's say I

want to start with a blank and blank

empty section I pull this guy in here

and then but I want to save some time

still so I'm gonna go to components I

want to find a good headline for this

section

and maybe I decide that this is the one

for me I can drag oh that so before you

can add a headline you do need to add a

column so let's say I want this to be a

66% column in here and then I can drag

and drop a component so now I can go to

my headline and find a headline that I

like and drag this guy in here and you

can start to build out your own section

just by putting things together so for

mock out mock-up compositions you can

get a good little list of what you want

to use and I like this guy

this gets a little intimidating I'm just

gonna pause here and take a look at all

the different places you can toss this

guy so you really need to be thoughtful

when you're putting it through so for

example if you pay attention here I've

got some purple dotted lines here where

I put two columns with varying width

this is a 66% I think and this is a 50%

probably and there's two lines very

close but if I put it here it's gonna be

narrower than if I put it there let's go

and test that but here you see it fits

within that nice little column but I can

also drag this component up a little bit

and now it's bigger because I've given

it more space on the screen so then I

decide okay I want this to kind of move

down a little bit so I can edit the mode

and give it some top padding let's give

it a 150 pixels of padding and now it's

move down a good bit so you can easily

work through it

I like the learning curve there are some

limitations to it that I'll talk about

in just a second now let's talk about

the learning curve of thrive architect

and the architect is amazing because it

is extremely powerful the double-edged

side of that sword is that it's not the

easiest for beginners let me show you a

couple of reasons why that is so when I

click on this little paragraph here you

would imagine this is my paragraph but

in reality what thrive does which is

smart

but I think they can probably refine how

it works is this paragraph section you

can see up here we got a little

navigation breadcrumb trail is part of a

column this is the column and this

column is a part of the

two columns here and these two columns

are a part of this background section

here and then the background section is

part of the entire page so what you have

here is a nesting of content where

everything belongs somewhere but right

like we all belong somewhere which is

nice the challenge with it is you can

get into this hunting for where you set

something because let me show you what I

mean by that let's say we want to add a

another - con - column section down here

so let's split let's go find some

columns and drag it beneath the

paragraph and let's put little thirds

and let's just put some icons there real

quick I'll come back in one second okay

so I just put in a few different icons

in a three column section let me show

you some of the craziness you can get

into so this icon is part of a column

right there that column is part of those

columns those columns are part of this

column this column is part of you see

how it nuts that can get let me show you

how kind of frustrating can be let's say

somewhere you decide let's say this

section up here you want to add some

padding and get a layout in position

let's say we want to add some padding

here and I've adjusted the padding by

giving an additional space between there

and there the challenge is I can also be

on the icon and add let's say I make a

mistake and add this one let's say I

want to take the link off and move this

one guy down now what I'm looking for

where that happened I literally have to

check every different spot because it

could be here that was moved down I

don't know if I'm communicating clearly

but this is a frustration for me also

you know you might align it someplace

here but then you can go to the column

area and the column can be aligned

center or right side so you can get in

this position of kind of having your

settings conflict against each other now

it's all because you can do whatever the

heck you want with thrive it is

incredibly powerful I use it on my own

website but there are moments where I'm

looking at something let's say it's a

page I designed a month ago

and I'm looking at it I'm like oh my

gosh I can't get this thing to look how

I want it to look and it's because I can

get in this position where things get

kind of stacked and

settings can kind of conflict a little

bit it's a little bit of a frustration I

don't know if you can tell but when it

comes a learning curve it can be a

frustration because there there's all

these different settings you know you've

got it doesn't seem too bad now but when

you expand each one of these there are a

ton of different things that you can do

with each one of these icons and you add

in a new module let's say an image and

images have let's put something in real

quick so I move this image in and you

know that's actually a really good

example so I pushed this image in and

what happened was it actually pushed the

other image and completely off the page

which I'm actually a little bit

surprised about that it would do that so

now I need to go and drag the image size

down a little bit which is moving

everything around you would think that

it would fit the size that I gave it

that it actually forced everything over

here so there are some things I wish

Thrive would maybe make a little more

intuitive I still I love them to death

you can for example I can just drag this

around and kind of give a space or take

space but even just in doing that now if

I want to get this all to look right

again it might be a little bit of a

struggle so that's a couple of

real-world examples where the usability

on thrive themes is intimidating for

beginners as you get more fluid with it

and more fluent you know it makes more

sense it becomes easier to use but I

don't think it'll ever be the most

intuitive page builder on the market

okay moving on now let's get into the

speed to build section of the comparison

and speed to build assumes you've kind

of gotten past that a little bit of the

learning curve obviously we just gave a

cart release of use to kind of like

first-time users but now when we get

into actually you're competent you're

building out for a new client let's say

how do these two compare let's go and

take a look with car true their page

builder is not quite as fast as thrive

architect you know things for example if

I wanted to make an edit here and I want

to edit the icon you kind of have to

play this game with it where you're

clicking around to try to get the right

the right thing I want to edit this guy

so I got it finally

and I can edit and I can make some

changes and one

in the settings area you have to hit

apply a lot but it works really well you

can circle it and you can see now I have

a circle I can change the icon color and

it was nice as as you're working through

it there's not a lot of lag once you're

like you're working on a section and

you're clicking it and applying it it

does reflect really quickly really

nicely

the challenge is though for me it's just

that frustration of getting exactly what

it is that I want to edit so if I wanted

to edit the benefit statement that was

actually pretty easy there's one of

those things where it doesn't happen all

the time but if you start getting really

complex designs things can kind of be a

little bit challenging the other side of

it is if I want to take this multiple

demo section let's say I want to have

two more of these featured areas you

need to kind of just hover randomly and

get to the right level of detail that

you want so like this is good oh but I

clicked so this is what I want now I

want to get over there and clone it and

clone it and now get it again this is

this is real right so I'm trying to get

this guy and I actually I I'm not gonna

edit this out I'm trying to get this to

drag down to the bottom of the list

there we go boom okay so I got it so huh

so you can have these moments where

you're trying to get things just right

let's say I wanna take this fully

responsive down to the bottom clone it

and then come back drag it it's not

terrible but it's one of those where you

have to have like the right touch and

also probably a pretty good computer I'm

working on a nice desktop right now it

has good power if you have a lower

powered computer that might be a bit of

a challenge there so and then if I

wanted to move this guy over to the

right side that's not going to be quite

as easy there are some features that are

nicer with thrive where you can actually

just flip-flop these in one click so

speed to build is good as I'm working

through I can quickly see my my

responsiveness I can go here and preview

what I'm building

let's open the preview kind of clicking

around haphazardly but you get an idea

how this would look so it's not a bad

build process I really enjoy it also

when it comes to speed to build with

Carteret one thing that I have to

mention is you can take sections let's

say you customize this section fully I

can go here to this little red gear and

hit the star and now this section this

entire section has been saved and I can

easily with one click pull it into any

other page in any other location that

I'd like so now that it's saved I can go

back into my sections and at the top

here I'm gonna have my favorite blocks

and here you go it's right here at the

top and you can see as I was building

out my mom's website I did save a couple

here for example I built out this

timeline let me drag this guy in just to

show you and it shows the daily schedule

of the business and it's kind of nice so

you from 6:00 to 8:00 it's 10:00 and

this is something that I'm going to use

in another location and I thought it was

nice to saver right then and there

another thing to mention on cartridge

speed to use is how I got all these

images into my website and that's a huge

time-saver in their image editor we'll

talk about in the next section but first

let's go ahead and talk about thrives

ease-of-use in speed to build okay so

here we're back on thrive architect and

I have to give it to thrive I think that

they went over all in the speed to build

once you've built up confidence in the

entire tool and one of the big reasons

for that is their ability to save

symbols let me show you what a symbol is

real quick so if I like this section and

let's say this is a something I want to

keep updated and have this in different

locations on my website maybe on my home

page and on the bottom of my blog post

or something like that I can go over

here and save this entire section and I

can save it as a symbol and what that

does is it will keep whatever the

current design is of the symbol synced

around the entire website so anyplace

that's displayed it's going to show what

the symbol is saved as so call the

simple one save it so now it's turning

into this little salmon color this

little pink color and if I ever wanted

to update it let's say I don't do

podcasting anymore I do a YouTube

channel I can edit as a symbol and I can

go in here and say cuz they subscribe to

my channel now and then I can go to the

icon

and adjust this from being a podcast to

being YouTube it's like that guy and

boom else upon you to adjust the size

here looks about right so now that I've

made these edits I can just say done and

now anywhere that this section is put on

my website it could be hundreds or

thousands of places it will

automatically show that update there

which is a huge time-saver another speed

benefit of using thrive is they've

recently released their global colors

let me show you what that is real quick

so if this headline I pulled this call

to action in but if this is not quite -

my my styling I can highlight over it go

to my text colors and I have actually

created some global colors here you can

tell they're global maybe see there it

has like a little hash mark in the

bottom right corner of the area and so

if I click on it this is actually my

tango one of my theme colors and I can

edit the color in that one location and

I'll edit every instance of that color

on my website so if I just put this as

my primary color apply it now it's that

orange and if I ever wanted to change

let me show you here let me let's go

ahead and do this so let's take these

edit this symbol and I'm gonna take this

guy here and change the icon color to

let's create a new a new color here

let's say this is going to be a global

color you can add that color that I'm

using and make that a global one and

call this edit the label to be test

global and now let's do the same thing

here where this is now actually going to

be my global color and change this to be

my global color so I've changed these

colors once you have to go through the

work once and let's do the same thing

here just to give you an example so now

these are all global colors but what if

my client that I'm building this website

for oops decides that he wants his color

not to be this little minty color but

instead to be a purple let's just say so

I can go here to my global color and say

edit the color and now I want to go and

find a purple and that I Bing badda boom

so now every place not just on this web

page but any place where I'm you

that minty color as a global color it

will update to the new area and you can

see here let's say save apply these guys

I didn't get around to changing so we

were good to go at that stage the color

it is so this is a huge benefit if you

have client work and you know clients

can sometimes be a little picky around

the colors and that's a nice speed

benefit there they also do the same

thing for gradients and other areas so

at the end of the day there are some

benefits with speed to use with Karcher

there are some benefits for speed ease

with thrive I'll kind of give it a wash

personally I think thrive is the faster

overall builder you know it's just

snappy I actually write my blog post and

thrive architect because it's just nice

quick and easy and you can easily add in

some styled items that way alright now

let's go ahead and get into the image

imagery and icons of both of these

platforms and let me show you something

in Karcher that's really going to make

you happy so let's say we have this

little test page here I want to add in

an image let's go to images drag this

guy wherever it wants to be let's go

ahead and put it right here nice big

image and now I want to go and edit

alright go to my component mode hover

over edit the style know image is

selected here this is something that

thrive does not currently compete with

they don't try to you can search for

royalty-free images these are images you

can use on business items you know

they're free for user and I can get sued

or anything by using these items and

let's say we want to look for a computer

boom type it in and sometimes this works

really well sometimes is a little bit

slow but I've typed in computer and I've

got really good looking stock photos I

can use for my project for computers so

I'll find I like this one I'm not a Mac

guy but they are beautiful machines and

I'll confirm apply and I've got this

image we also adjust the style of it by

giving it a border so let's say I'm

gonna give it a 5 pixel border 5 pixel

dashed border and I can change the color

here so just a couple little things you

can do to make it kind of nice you get

also let's go ahead and duplicate this

and on this image

let's change from being an image to

being an icon and now if I it's still

searching for computer so now I've got

this list of pretty good-looking icons

of computers I can also use for my

projects you know one thing I'll note

here is these are not SVG's which are

scaler sorry scalable vector graphics

working through a cold ear so what that

means is if you pull this image in it

can get a little pixel in it if it's on

a hue if it tried to get zoomed hugely

in but it's really not that big of a

deal to be able to have the color of

colorful graphics as well is a huge

benefit but boom that's my example

perfectly that's too big of a spot for

that little icon so let's do a couple

things here let's hover over and let's

hover on this little size icon here yeah

out of my area sighs I mean this is

really meant to be about that size so

let's say we're good here let's move

this guy in a place that makes more

sense for it to be let's do some editing

I hate that border that I just put on

there so put that back down to zero now

we're good let's align it to the center

now we're good and I want to give us

some more top padding so we'll give it

let's say 50 pixels of top padding and

we're good so that's a nice little

feature let's go and show you a couple

other icons I really like here so if I

want to look for a graph everyone loves

a good graph I mean these are

nice-looking icons I could see using any

of these in a in a sales page looks

really good one challenge with this is

let's say this color scheme isn't quite

your color scheme let's say one of those

yellows kind of clashes with your yellow

because this is just a picture you can't

adjust the colors themselves so when I

show you thrive you'll see some of the

benefits of how they've implemented but

overall kind of a beautiful beautiful

implementation

let's get sad so our monies are going

down not good confirm boom and apply I

always remembered to apply I forget to

do that all the time I wonder why it's

broken

so not bad but again if you scale this

up not meant to go bigger I'll show you

how thrive does a little bit better okay

so first off here we are in thrive and

just to start off they don't have a

built-in photo editor or built-in photo

discovery platform you have to find them

there are WordPress plugins where you

can go and search unsplash and things

like that and add them into your library

but they don't work nicely with a thrive

architect natively what they do you have

though is a pretty awesome icon library

or if I go into icons here and I can

search I can search for a graph and I

don't get anything it's search for chart

I get this one chart that's a little sad

um I have actually noticed this has been

a little buggy recently where sometimes

I would get more than others so here it

looks like I lost some of my icons what

the heck is going on here what's

supposed to happen is you have the

ability to import in font awesome let me

show you that is font awesome icons and

they have this this huge library a lot

of them are free so you can pay for some

as well

and you get all these icons in and they

should import into your library here for

whatever reason decided to stop working

for me thanks a lot so let me see okay

look at this so oh I guess stats you can

hover over and see what the title is

like would you think of this as being

stats I wouldn't like if I search for

stats now I've got these to me that's a

chart I don't know call me crazy but I

can pull it in and then with icon size

the difference here is that because it's

a scalable vector graphic it can get as

big as you want let's pull this guy

right here this can get as big as you

possibly want and it'll still look good

I guess it's maxed out here some

somewhere there's again some other

sections that are conflicting here but

you can change the color you want to all

over the place gray

none of those restrictions are there but

they're also just very simple drawings

whereas you get these nice little icons

that are multicolored and looks like a

good featured image

here in Carter so when it comes to image

management I give the benefit to Carter

because it has that built-in photo

finder and the images can be a bit more

bit more beautiful by nature I went

ahead and bought an icon pack for my

featured images on my blog you can check

out in kamesh com see how I do my

featured images there and you know write

me a few bucks but now I have icons in

the Thrive that will compete with the

icons in Carter so not too big of a deal

okay a short section here let's talk

about content boxes this is one of those

features that I'll start off in thrive

because it's where they live that I

really really like go ahead and get down

here let's get out of our symbol real

quick and one of the elements that I

really like in thrive is this idea of a

Content box and it's such a simple

concept but it can be so powerful if you

if you really play with it

so what this does is this is one of

those sources of confusion and

frustration but once you master it it

can make your websites so awesome so

what comes in box is basically just a

place for you to put stuff so I'm gonna

go ahead and put this here Center it in

the middle of screen and now this is a

blank canvas for me to put stuff into

and format it so within a Content box I

can put another box it's going to sound

a little silly but you'll see what I do

is I make it make it through so what

this allows you to do is build anything

you want to build if you want to build a

testimonial box a guarantee box it's all

gonna be built out of a combination of

boxes let me show you one that I've pre

built let me go to my template symbols

and go into my templates here so as an

example I built out force on my review

posts a pro and con check out a pros and

cons list area and this is made out of a

series of content boxes so if I click on

one of these items here you'll see this

item isn't within a list and then that

list is within a Content box and that

box is here and that box is within

another box so which is the combination

of them and so you're able to really

have some flexibility and

this all out yourself kind of in a

custom-made way what you'll also notice

is this pros area is its own box on top

of this box it's like Russian nesting

dolls it's kind of weird but you've got

a lot of flexibility here with a content

box icon area and I do like that in car

trudeau eveni thing with quite them as

much flexibility and that's probably

intentional like thrive they want you to

be able to do whatever the heck you want

to do and you have to deal with the

frustration if it doesn't work exactly

right here if you wanted to do something

similar it would probably be like a box

here and so let's let's play with this

real quick so let's drag a box in okay

I've got this box and I could you know

change the color like I did on the other

one so let's change this color to like a

little red here and now let's see if I

can put a box inside the box let's go

back to boxes it's not crazy saying box

with all this and would you look at that

oh my gosh I might actually have to be

changing my perspective on this I

thought this is a very unique Thrive

aspect so I put a box inside there and

now let's go back into components and

put another box

let's just go box crazy and you got the

different layouts here which those are

good layouts okay so I've got a very

complex set of boxes here and what I

want to do now is let me just put some

icons into it I'll put a very small icon

I do you giant okay giants still pretty

small and we will change this from being

this to university I like that change

you and then duplicate look at this you

can actually do some very intricate

designs here I'm going quickly here but

just give me an idea you can do complex

designs and karcher really really well

what I want to do now is let me take a

look at this this looks really good but

I want to make sure that this box can be

centered so let me go here and I want to

vertically align it in the center

Wow now if I remove the columns I know

this might not look like a lot but

imagine what we just did

we made a one full size with a

background color and then a half size

here and then a thirds within that and

we're able to change the background

color and everything within that okay I

I've changed my opinion car truck can be

just as customizable as thrive this is

really cool to see

I'm impressed good job card sure let me

go ahead and save this so I don't lose

it alright let's talk about the not so

cool parts of both of these builders the

bugs aspect and both of them have bugs

I'll just say it in Karcher one of the

challenges I have I don't know if you

can notice but I'm actually using this

in a Chrome incognito window and the

reason for that is if I try to run this

on my regular Chrome browser

something doesn't work right like when I

try to drag things around sometimes they

don't get placed correctly and if I go

to a different browser altogether maybe

the photo editor won't work correctly I

have tested it to in and it might just

be my machine it might be that I have I

do run a lot of Chrome extensions to

kind of help me do my job so if you look

here I've got some good chroma a lot of

Chrome extensions on here and I need to

get into an incognito window for this

really to work well now is that a bug on

cartridge something that I'm doing wrong

you know jury's out there but that is

something just to be aware of on thrive

side I have had it happen where I'll hit

save and it'll just try to save and

it'll never actually save again that

might be a conflict with my plugins

where some of my optimization plugins

are messing with it or maybe it's my

page cache or something but as an end

user I really don't care I want it to

work right and so there are some issues

on both these builders I'm not going to

fault one more than the other just

realize when you go into this nothing is

perfect in life and just kind of pick

your tools and go with it but really

impressed with this on cart right here

okay so the wrap-up who is each one of

these tools for and we're talking

specifically the page builder in the

future video we'll get into the email

opt-in captures the lead generation the

membership areas all that stuff but in

this video I would say that thrive is if

you are a hardcore WordPress user you

want to be you know deep into blogging

and kind of building out content with

your WordPress based site

cartridge is probably not gonna be the

one for you there's gonna be some added

complexities by trying to make cartridge

and WordPress work well together it can

be done I have a video that I'll put up

here that shows you how to use Carteret

and WordPress together nicely but it's

not gonna be built in the right way

who is Karcher for I would say pretty

much everybody else like if you're going

to be trying to put on a client website

for somebody where they're starting from

scratch like for example my my client

right now my mom she does not have

technology in her business she doesn't

really want technology in her business

but she wants the business to grow so in

that case having some live chat support

is going to be great for her having an

email autoresponder linked in with her

page builder is gonna be great for her

and the page building experience it's

gonna be easier for me because I can

just kind of throw out some sections

that are pre-built and say hey what do

you think and go from there so I do

think the Karcher serves a huge need in

the marketplace it does it at a pretty

reasonable price if you think about

everything you're getting with it so

there you go I hope this was helpful I

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